4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

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mvillarreal
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4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

Post by mvillarreal » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:36 am

Hello!
Just wondering why my 2nd grader has 5 days per week in LHFHG and my 5th grader has 4 days per week in Res. to Ref. We figured out the remaining days of our school year and it looks like my 2nd grader has more days left. Just wondering if I'm missing something here. I know the 5th day is optional in the LHFHG, but there's so much good stuff in there, I hate to skip it!
Thanks!

rumkimom
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Re: 4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

Post by rumkimom » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:56 am

The 5th day in LHFHG is not listed as optional, but is meant as a 5 day a week curriculum. They switch to a 4 day week in Preparing....so the younger kids (LHTH, LHFHG, Beyond and Bigger) all have a 5 day week. For the older kids, that extra day can be used to get caught up or other activities. :)

My daughter in RtR does not do a full lesson each day as it is too much for her....we do 7 boxes a day so get though it in 6 days. We are slowly working up to boxes a day so that we can get it done in 5 days.
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Re: 4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

Post by StephanieU » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:33 am

In the younger years, daily lessons for fine motor skills/handwriting, reading, and math are very helpful. So Carrie wrote the early guides to be 5 days a week, 34 weeks a year. But, as kids get older, they often have something outside the house at least once a week. So moving to a four day schedule is helpful. And like there previous poster said, it can also be used as a catch up day. The four day a week guides also have one extra week- 35 weeks per guide.
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Re: 4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

Post by Rice » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:51 am

Yes, Carrie started the guides with 34 5-day units but as her kids got older she realized that more flexibility was needed for outside activities, etc. so approximately 5 days of work is scheduled in 4 for Preparing on up. There is also one extra (35th) unit in those guides (compared to the younger ones) so LHFHG to Bigger have 170 days while Preparing through High School have 140.

When scheduling guides from both groups (let's call them the lower and upper guides for ease) you can handle it a few ways:
~ Doing 5 day and 4 day weeks combined at full speed: a younger child could do Unit 1 (M-F) while an older one does Unit 1 (4 days), using the fifth day (take your pick) for catching up unfinished work, music lessons, sports or any other interests.
~ Doing only 4 day weeks: while the older child does 1 unit per week (with the fifth day for catch-up or outside interests), the younger child only does 4 days as well (making the fifth day a day "off" of academics for the whole family, freeing it up to do outside activities, co-op, lessons, shopping, etc.), which means that the second week the younger child would do Unit 1 Day 5, then Unit 2 Days 1-3, etc. They would slowly get "further behind" the older siblings, if looking at weeks, but it makes family life go a bit smoother. This way, a guide would take a little more than a school year.
~ A combination. Just do an HOD Day every day you "do school" and don't worry about whether they're lined up or not. Maybe some days you'll combine a few Bible stories and do an extra activity in LHFHG to do 3 days in 2 days. Maybe your oldest will need a catch-up day. Don't worry so long as you get about 4 Days done per week (on average) and they keep progressing in their skills.

FWIW, this last year I found out that I really like having each child switch guides at different times of the year. Strange circumstances have caused each of my children to finish at different times and that has allowed me extra time to finish up each guide well (saving things to a portfolio, not trying to rush to finish by a certain date, etc.) and to spend extra time with them as they start each guide half speed for a couple of weeks (rather than trying to start 3 or 4 guides at the same time). I used to be a "one guide per year, finish up everything within a few weeks and definitely by the end of June" homeschooler, but am slowly (after 10+ years homeschooling) learning to relax and enjoy the journey. Each of their paths will be different anyway, so I might as well embrace those differences from day one! :) This year my youngest in HOD started September in about Unit 3 of LHTH, my Beyond guy still had about 3 units of LHFHG to finish before starting his new guide, my 10yo started his guide at the beginning of the school year, my DD started the school year in Unit 11 and my oldest started in Unit 25! It was a much more relaxed start with some kids going back to what was familiar than the previous year, starting 4 kids in 3 HOD guides at once, for our first year with HOD.

Blessings as you continue to wrap your mind around what HOD looks like and how it will play out in your family!
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Re: 4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

Post by mvillarreal » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:19 pm

Thank you all so much for taking the time to explain the logistics behind why Carrie wrote the guides this way. I'd love to integrate other subjects or activities on Fridays for my older son that we don't seem to ever have time for. I know it certainly won't go well if he gets a day off and my 2nd grader has to do school that day!

Thank you, Rice, for sharing your experience as a homeschooler and what you've learned over the years! We have always been the finish-all-the-lessons and be-done-in-mid-May kind of family, but I can definitely see the benefits of not being quite so rigid with our scheduling. Our boys are used to finishing up the school year together so we'll have to see how this plays out at the end of the school year. This year was our first in HOD and I'm sure we will continue to learn, grow, and figure out our way!

Thanks again and blessings to you all!

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Re: 4 days/wk vs. 5 days/wk

Post by MelInKansas » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:44 pm

You can still run your school year from September - May just finish up a unit in LHFHG and pick that up where you left off when you start again in the fall. I school "year round" with long breaks in the middle of it, taking summers off doesn't really work for us on many levels. I too like finishing the guide well and not rushing to get it done. Because of the 4 day/5 day thing my kids all switch to new guides at different times and that work really well for me too. I don't like starting a new guide with a child and it's good to have just one kid to focus on getting started.
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